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Guinea Pig
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Been having shortness of breath problems and have
just been diagnosed with 'restricted airway disease'.

Is this another common GWI issue?

Anyone else have this...

[ May 23, 2007, 04:52 AM: Message edited by: Guinea Pig ]

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Hi Guinea Pig!

Restricted airway disease (COPD, Asthma, Emphysema, Bronchitis, Pulmonary Fibrosis) can be caused by several things (smoking, exposure to environmental/occupational toxins, chronic illnesses, etc.). I would say (in my own opinion) that much depends on the cause of your restricted airway. If you believe the condition was due to damage to your lungs because of toxins from the Gulf War, you may need a specialist to say that in his/her opinion the cause was from those exposures.

Here are some pulmonary conditions identified in the VA Handbook regarding GWI:

(1) Due to the un-ignited petroleum and/or smoke from the sabotage of Kuwaiti oil wells,
the following health problems are to be considered in veterans of the first Gulf War:
VHA HANDBOOK 1303.2 March 7, 2005
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(a) Chronic bronchitis,
(b) Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease,
(c) Pulmonary emphysema,
(d) Bronchial asthmas, and
(e) Lung cancer.


See also Item #4 in the same VA Handbook 1303.2 regarding other pulmonary problems:

4. The physician should be aware of the variety of exposures endemic to the GW area. These
are listed in Appendix C. There has been a wide distribution of major categories of diagnosis
reported by VA EH Clinicians; however, no significant variation in occurrence of major
categories of medical problems has been identified. We are listing below (for informational
purposes) some of the health problems and/or diseases that should be considered:
VHA HANDBOOK 1303.2 March 7, 2005
APPENDIX B
B-2
NOTE: Recommended coding (refer to International Classification of Diseases, Current
Edition)
Complaints Symptom Code Diagnosis Diagnostic Code
(If confirmed)
(1) Other Symptoms involving:
Nervous and Musculoskeletal
Systems for Pain in the joint 78199 Arthralgia 71940-71949
(2) Malaise and Fatigue 78079 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome 78071
Fibromyalgia 7291
(3) Insomnia with sleep apnea 78051 Sleep Apnea 99001
or 78053
DIAGNOSIS
(1) Amebiasis
(2) Apnea, sleep
(3) Arthralgia
(4) Asthma
(5) Brill’s Zinsser disease (recrudescent typhus)
(6) Bronchiectasis
(7) Bronchopneumonia, organism unspecified
(8) Brucellosis
(9) Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, not elsewhere classified
(10) Chronic bronchitis

(11) Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
(12) Chronic Laryngotracheitis
(13) Chronic respiratory conditions due to fumes and vapors
(14) Emphysema

March 7, 2005 VHA HANDBOOK 1303.2
APPENDIX B
B-3
(15) Fibromyalgia
(16) Giardiasis
(17) Leishmaniasis
(18) Malaria
(19) Other and unspecified diseases of upper respiratory tract
(20) Pneumoconiosis due to other silica or silicates
(21) Pneumoconiosis, unspecified
(22) Unspecified chronic respiratory disease
(23) Respiratory conditions due to unspecified external agent

(24) Sandfly fever (phlebatomus fever)
(25) Schistosomiasis (bilharziasis)
(26) Toxoplasmosis
(27) Typhoid fever, also carrier - V02.1
(28) Tuberculosis, specify variant(s)
(29) Viral hepatitis
(30) Memory loss
(31) Polyneuropathy
(32) Skin rash
(33) Adjustment disorder, including Post Traumatic Stress
Disorder (PTSD)
(34) Alcohol dependence syndrome
(35) Drug dependence
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Additional information on pulmonary (lung) conditions/diseases can be found here:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-chronic-obstructive-pulmonary-disease-copd.htm

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-pulmonary-fibrosis.htm

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Thanx for the great info Gale. I've been thinking though it's more likely from my own neighborhood, lots of traffic and other nasty inner-city pollutants.

I'm sure if it was GW connected I would have had this sooner??

Oh well, another health problems to add to my growing list...I've just about given up hope I'll ever get compensated. They don't except osteoporosis as a GWI symptom but I hear they do in the UK?

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Guinea Pig,

It would be possible that you had early stages of a respiratory disease aggravated by the exposures from the Gulf War and no one bothered testing you for them-- until now. One thing to remember about these unexplained illnesses is that many of them (including respiratory conditions) can't be proven that they weren't a result of Gulf War exposures. So, it is at least as likely as not they are a result of the Gulf War. (If anyone can explain this better, please feel free to do so!)

Also, you should inquire about the respiratory problems exclusive to the Navy (it just now dawned on me you're Navy) in this VA letter:
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000138


INCREASED POSTWAR SYMPTOMS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL MORBIDITY AMONG U.S. NAVY GULF WAR VETERANS
http://www.ajtmh.org/cgi/reprint/60/5/758.pdf


Febrile Respiratory Illness Surveillance
http://www.nhrc.navy.mil/geis/studies/Fabrile%20Respiratory%20Illness%20Surveillance.htm


Large epidemic of respiratory illness due to adenovirus types 7 and 3 in healthy young adults.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11803503&dopt=Abstract


Psychosocial Risk Factors for Upper Respiratory Infections: Effects of Upper Respiratory Illness on Academic Performance in U.S. Navy Basic Training.
http://stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oai?&verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA223190

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Basically if a Doc is willing to say that the GW can't be ruled out as the cause then you may have a chance for compensation. The statement Gale used is the best one to use in the Doc's statement. Also, you might want to look at MCS Multiple Chemical Syndrome. There are dietary ways to help lessen the blow of the illness. My airway fluctuates and it can be directly related to MCS. Don't know if it will help, but worth a try. MCS is also a precursor to FM.

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I hear what you're saying Gale, thanx for the links, great info. Especially the respiratory problems in Navy vets. I worked on the flight deck during the first GW, and the non-skid on the flight deck was worn all away by the end of the cruise (8 months), and the steel deck was rust red. There's a great pic of it somewhere but I can't find it right now.
Anyway I'm sure we were breathing in that non-skid, along with all the other chemicals on the boat.
A guy actually collapsed and died on the hanger bay after accidentally breathing in some chemical fumes.

Thanx Felinuit, hmmmm the FM thing has me worried cause I have the symptoms, joint and muscle pains, fatigue, anxiety, depression, headaches, IBS, restless leg syndrome, the whole lot really. I'll mention it to my doc next time I see him, cause so far they have no diagnoses for the pain.

5 years ago I was very healthy and fit. My last job was bicycle messenger in San Francisco, averaging about 60 miles a day. Now I have difficulty just walking, mostly due to my back. I have a fracture, because of the osteo. But I also get really sore in my legs, and it's like they don't want to respond. When I start walking it's hard to get going, if you know what I mean?

I actually got my shrink to put in my record that he can't rule out GWI as far as my anxiety/depression is concerned. I have to do the same with my regular doc.

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Did you get the Anthrax vaccine?
Your symptoms are ringing a lot of bells with me.

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Guinea Pig

[Thanx Felinuit, hmmmm the FM thing has me worried cause I have the symptoms, joint and muscle pains, fatigue, anxiety, depression, headaches, IBS, restless leg syndrome, the whole lot really. I'll mention it to my doc next time I see him, cause so far they have no diagnoses for the pain.]

I have all that except the restless leg thing and I have been dx with other ailment since then.My other ailments that are new are diabetes ,sleep apnea,passing out,unexplained dizzieness.allthese started around 2003 or so.My biggining symptoms started 1990 and I did not start going to the Va until 1997 when doctors outside of the va started telling to go to the va to get checked out because they did not know how to deal with my problems.I did not start posting on this sight until 1997 looking for answers just like alot of us do now.I did not serve in the gulf but I was state side during the gulf war.I was stationed with VAW-126 from 87-90 and then was stationed with Lajes aimd reserves at selfridge from 90-92 was discharge from the navy in 94 Honorably.Believed I recieved my shots from 87-89 but I do not know because there is no record of the shot in my medical record there fore no proof I recieved whatever shot they gave me.I put in a claim i believe back in 2002 or 2001 claiming vaccine injury went all the way to the highest part or point with my rep witch was the purple heart I gave up on my claim but the kept the fight on but lost.Reason I lost was because I had no record of this shot anthrax.They C.Y.O.A themselves very good.And if they can do it to one veteran they can do to a whole lot more.
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You know Endure i'm not positive if i got the shots, i don't remember and my record is missing also. The whole thing.
But yeah my symptoms and the fact the VA told me i had GWI symptoms i'm guessing i probably did.

I did deploy, with VAQ 132 on the Saratoga. 8 months in the Red Sea doing figure eights. I worked on the flight deck. The non-skid we lost off the flight deck (all of it in some places) might be an issue too. Breathing that in is not good for you.

4 years ago i was called in to take part in a GWI study at the VA. 2 days of tests, 3 MRI's etc...A years later i got called back to do it again, and the guy running it told me they called me back cause i showed symptoms of GWI the first time. The kicker though it was research and can't be used for diagnoses, and VA has not diagnosed me officialy with GWI even though they found i had it. How messed up is that? I did get my psyc doc to put in my record that he couldn't rule out GWI for my anxiety etc. though. So I'm getting there slowly. I want to get service connected, i'm on ssi/ssa now and can barely feed myself. Been denied twice so far but thats cause my old doc was useless and put nothing in my med record. My new doc is far better.

I started having the same symptoms as you all about 6-7 yrs ago. Started with anxiety, depression, explosive anger outbursts, daily panic attacks. I barely made it though that, i was cutting myself, crazy crap. I would cry all the time, i'm a freakin 43 yr old guy. it was like all my emotions were just out of control. Thank God that's under control now.

But then the physical stuff started. I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, IBS, chronic pain from joints and muscles, weakness, fatigue, memory loss, restless leg syndrome.
And it doesn't seem to stop, the breathing probs just started. I'm losing my strength like crazy. I'm having weird sharp stinging pains in my big toe when i'm lying in bed...lol
What the hells next?

Yeah Mark i've started getting the dizzines to, especially when i stand up, i have to do it real slow now. I also have balance problems and stumble a lot. No passing out though.

yeah no proof we got the shots, how convenient for the gov eh?

I wish we could do more, like a million man GWI victims march on washington or something.

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This shot I recieved more then once in my command would make me sick for about three to four days.The side effects were heavy runny nose,fever,aching joints. At the vaccine sight it would feel like a giant soft ball inside your arm and it would be painfull.The fever and the joint aches would start within a hour of the vaccine and no one knew what this vaccine was called because we would just call it the shot.I did recieve my shot record from the service but all that it had in it was the vaccines they gave you while you were in boot camp I also ha ve copies of my medical records but there is no record of this so called shot that they gave me.So it does make me think that they do have something to hide about this so called shot.I am telling you this to see if this sounds familar.I did tell the doctor about the side effects but all he said was that it was normal and that it would go away in a few days.Now this is way before they came out with this vears thing witch came out after 1990.If they had a place to report adverse reactions to vaccines we would not be having this conversation.I have been trying to contact folks from my command but have had no such luck, only them can verify this so called shot and help me file with another claim.
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I don't recall getting a shot like that, but my long term memory is a little fuzzy.

I've tried looking for shipmates from VAQ132 with no luck so far also. Would be easier if I could remember names...lol

Searched here with no luck...
http://navy.togetherweserved.com/usn/index.jsp

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This breathing problem is getting worse. I've just had my third attack of dry coughing with weezing in a week, and this time I started getting dizzy and I really hurt the fracture in my spine again, I have a lot of pain when standing. I felt week after words too.

My inhaler helped get my breathing back to normal but took awhile.

I know this is not a diagnoses site lol but i thought someone might know?
Could I have asthma? Has anyone else developed asthma?

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Guinea Pig,

You're right... We can't make diagnosis here, but I encourage you to get help soon. You could have other pulmonary conditions besides asthma, as well. In any case, please call your doctor soon and let him/her know what's been happening with you lately.

Recognizing Asthma Signs and Symptoms
http://www.njc.org/disease-info/diseases/asthma/about/symptoms/index.aspx

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Thanx for the quick reply Gale, yes I will do that first thing tomorrow.

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If you have not had a cardiac stress test, I would suggest you get one soon. The dizziness and weakness when standing up can be a sign of very treatable conditions, but without proper medical attention they can be very serious.

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