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So what does everybody think about the grieving mother's protest in the news.
Posts: 24 | From: Missoula, MT | Registered: Jul 2005
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I feel bad for her loss, but does anyone know the real truth about what her son did? He reenlisted because he was bothered that he hadnt been sent to Iraq yet. That is the whole reason that he reenlisted. He believed in that mission and he gave his life for it. I think it is too bad that his mother is doing this protest since he felt as strong as he did about the situation. I also wonder why she changed her story about how she was treated by bush a year earlier. That takes away from her credibility in my opinion However I dont know what it is like to lose a child either.
Posts: 350 | From: Seeleylake Montana | Registered: Jul 2005
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If she wants to protest its her right,doesnt matter what anyone thinks. She already has the credibility,she lost her son. Since I dont know what she's been thru during this time but if protesting a War she and alot of others dont agree with anymore makes her feel closer to her son or understanding Then let her do it,but not make a media event or Spin Zone for others who agree or disagree with her.
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What I was getting at by losing her credibility goose was she said over a year ago that she met with Bush and he treated her so wonderful. Now she comes out and says he was terrible to her. But like I said, I have never lost a child so Im probably not the right person to judge.
Posts: 350 | From: Seeleylake Montana | Registered: Jul 2005
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She has sacrificed and has earned the the right to her opinion that is America. There will be more against this war as it goes on, just the nature of the beast. I don't know!!!! I do know that Iraq was in violation of the resolutions that got us off Saddams butt back then('91)and I feel we had justification to do it. Whether it was the right move at the right time and so on is for historians. Salute and execute is why these men and women are dying is a simple combat vets outlook. Leave the politics to those who love manipulation for gain; us little guys never get all the details and never will. So goose is hitting the nail on the head, but SUCH an issue can and certainly will get UGLY!!! Every soldier has a reason they are over there or why they joined, which is one and the same. Her son took an oath and it has serious obligations. I think he knew this very well and I honor his memory for his dedication and ultimate sacrifice, he was a man of honor. Keith
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If President Bush took 10 or 15 minutes a week ago and talked with her, this would not be the PR nightmare it has become. Yes I am sure in the months that have followed her son's death, she has new questions for the President, but by leaving her on the side of the road and continuing her "strike" is only empowering her. Should he change his position because of it No, but he should give her 10 or 15 minutes and tell her he is sorry that she chooses to view it the way she does, but the mission will go on, none the less. It would take away the "above reproach" cloud that seems to pervade this administration.
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She has evry right to do what she's doing.I only hope that she isn't being taken advantage of by someone with a darker ambition. GOD bless
Posts: 115 | From: OHIO | Registered: Jul 2005
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Gonzo, that is the problem, these fringe groups take advantage of situations like this to push their agenda, we all watched it in the Terri Sciavo case and here we are seeing it again. People using the media focus on this grieving mother to push their agenda;s either out front and pulicly or silently pushing the direction from behind the scenes. To take advantage of a greiving mother is wrong just plain wrong,
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Testvet and Keith got it right. But everyone here agrees that the Political and (DARK ROOM) agendas need to stop. Americans have the right to protest,but protesting doesnt mean that they dont support the troops. So its getting to be a No-win situation anymore with the media.
Mother of soldier killed in Iraq symbolizes nation's desire for justification of war
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
Nothing is more emblematic of American democracy than the idea of one person standing up for his beliefs and in the process becoming the catalyst for a national debate. In the arena of civil rights, Rosa Parks' refusal to sit in the back of a Montgomery, Ala., bus was such an act. During the Vietnam War, Daniel Ellsberg's decision to give the media the Pentagon Papers detailing the secret history of U.S. involvement in Southeast Asia was another.
Now Californian Cindy Sheehan's August vigil on a sweltering roadway near President Bush's Crawford ranch has given a human voice and face to the revulsion of the carnage in Iraq. Sheehan, the mother of a 24-year-old Army specialist killed in Iraq last year, wants a face to face meeting with Bush to ask him what mission was worth her son Casey's life.
In a previous meeting a few months after his death, Sheehan says, the president seemed unaware of who her son was, addressed her as "mom" during the encounter and acted almost lighthearted. Now she wants a deadly serious discussion of why America invaded Iraq and how long the bloodshed will continue.
Those are questions on the minds of millions of Americans, who see the list of dead and injured American personnel growing along with the expenditure of billions of U.S. tax dollars, with no end in sight. Polls reflect the growing unease of the country with the president's handling of the war. Approval of the Bush war policy has fallen below 40 percent. As Sheehan questions the war, she is voicing the concerns of a majority of Americans.
In a way, the White House set the stage for Sheehan's vigil by saying Bush's five-week hiatus at the ranch was really a working vacation to allow him to talk to everyday folks about the issues that concern them. The likes of Cindy Sheehan don't come along every day, but she wants to discuss an issue that concerns millions of Americans who want to hear answers that go beyond the familiar "stay the course."
Even Richard Nixon, often described as paranoid about critics, visited antiwar protesters at the Lincoln Memorial in 1970.
Yet Bush has not yet found it in himself to meet a grieving mother or invite her to the ranch to discuss his policies. Thursday Bush told reporters he sympathized with Sheehan but that pulling out of Iraq "would be a mistake for the security of this country and the ability to lay the foundations for peace." Sheehan responded that the best way to show compassion would be to meet with her and other parents of soldiers killed in action.
Bush previously dispatched his national security adviser and an aide to meet with Sheehan's group, but that only increased the perception that Bush cannot bring himself to face his critics. Until the president addresses the doubts about the conduct of the war that Cindy Sheehan now symbolizes, the voices of the opposition will only grow louder.
-------------------- Robert Michael Roerich, M.D. Vice President National Gulf War Resource Center Posts: 964 | From: Steubenville, Ohio USA | Registered: Aug 2005
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In my own personal opinion, Mr. President speak with her. For whatever reason you have not yet done so, it is only making things worse, not better.
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-------------------- Robert Michael Roerich, M.D. Vice President National Gulf War Resource Center Posts: 964 | From: Steubenville, Ohio USA | Registered: Aug 2005
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Well they say the President is on vacation maybe that is the reason. But he could take 15 or 30 minutes to talk to her and make alot of people happier. Marineeng
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I think the media shouldn't waste our time on people like Mrs. Sheehan. For crying outloud, her son volunteered and enlisted, it wasn't like he was drafted. I do feel bad that she lost her son but come on, war is war.....
I don't think President Bush needs to speak w/ her. If that is the case, the president should personally speak to all other families who lost their sons and daughters. The media hypes this up.....and I do feel certain political party is behind it.....
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I think the Media is playing bothsides and both parties are using it to "SPIN IT"
But really,Would a few minute phone call too each family who looses a Son OR Daughter over there,rate either a Call or Personal Letter.? If this was started at the beinging it wouldnt be that big of a chunk of his time. If he hasnt the time have the first Lady do it. Mother to Mother
But if he would of went out there the first day,and said a few words to her,it would of been a DEAD HORSE by now.Plus it would of been a Good PR move on his part. Now more people are moving against the war because of his not wanting to speak to her,like "He cant face her" Actions speak louder then words.
The "He enlisted not drafted " thing still doesnt answer questions either. You had those 3 sisters in WI who lost one of them early on and the media was all over it. The remaining sisters not wearing their uniforms to the funeral would of been a bigger slap in the face myself. But its America,If she wants to Protest,thats what they say We were fighting for.
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I agree with you on bush talking to every family who lost someone in this war goose. But I say BS to your thoughts on whether or not he has time. I have supported every descision this administration has made so far in this war, But Bush should make time for every family, not pawn it off on his wife. It should be mandatory in my opinion. Maybe the reality of the cost of war would set in and our presidents would think twice before going to war again. However, Bush in this case has already met with her, she has supposedly according to some media changed her story on what happened in the first meeting. And now she wants another??? I guess im with Bush again on this one. What would it accomplish now that wasnt accomplished in the first meeting? Bush did his job as a president in this particular situation and should not have to place himself in a position to be burned by this lady again. Its pretty clear where each party stands on this war and a 10 minute meeting with Bush wont change hermind or his and she wont feel any better when it is over. Sorry I think she has been used by Michael Moore and the media.
But lets all remember that Casey Sheehan re enlisted because he had not been able to go to Iraq yet. He supported this mission and was willing to give his life for it. He made this choice after we all knew no weapons of mass destruction turned up. He was not misled whatsoever. He supported this period, and he is the true hero here, not his mother and not Bush. THANKYOU CASEY SHEEHAN !!!
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