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I have diabetes even though I have no family history or risk factors. I have read that DU can cause diabetes. Any other Desert Storm Vets with it?

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No diabetes for me (at least as of yet), although I keep packing on the weight.

If you want tested for DU contamination, you might ask your local VA to test you. Here's their policies on it:
EVALUATION PROTOCOL FOR GULF WAR AND IRAQI FREEDOM VETERANS WITH POTENTIAL EXPOSURE TO DEPLETED URANIUM (DU) http://www1.va.gov/gulfwar/docs/DUHandbook1303122304.DOC and http://www1.va.gov/vhapublications/ViewPublication.asp?pub_ID=1158
See also,
Depleted Uranium Fact Sheet http://www1.va.gov/gulfwar/docs/DepletedUraniumFAQSheet.doc


I'd be interested in knowing what they tell you. I can't remember if others here have been tested for DU, so maybe they will chime in if they have.

The only service-connection for diabetes that I know of is for the Agent Orange veterans.

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I Have diabetes Was never in The gulf was never around any du rounds and no one in my family has diabetes .My only explanation is my over weight.My other explanation is that i was vaccinated with some type of vaccine That I have no idea what it was.I hope that You are taking good care of your diabetes thoe,Its Up and down for me.Can't take the needle's no thoe.
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These are some things Charles Kelly has found.

SOURCE: American Journal of Industrial Medicine, November 2006.



…However, exposure to herbicides among Vietnam veterans confirmed a 50 percent increased risk of diabetes, a 52 percent greater heart disease risk, a 32 percent increased risk of hypertension and a 60 percent greater likelihood of having a chronic respiratory problem such as emphysema or asthma.



"Almost three decades after Vietnam service," the researchers conclude, "US Army veterans who were occupationally exposed to phenoxyherbicide in Vietnam experienced significantly higher risks of diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, and non-malignant lung diseases than other veterans who were not exposed to herbicides.”

Tom Blackwell, National Post

Published: Friday, December 15, 2006



In a discovery that has stunned even those behind it, scientists at a Toronto hospital say they have proof the body's nervous system helps trigger diabetes, opening the door to a potential near-cure of the disease that affects millions of Canadians.



Diabetic mice became healthy virtually overnight after researchers injected a substance to counteract the effect of malfunctioning pain neurons in the pancreas.



"I couldn't believe it," said Dr. Michael Salter, a pain expert at the Hospital for Sick Children and one of the scientists.



"Mice with diabetes suddenly didn't have diabetes any more."



The researchers caution they have yet to confirm their findings in people, but say they expect results from human studies within a year or so. Any treatment that may emerge to help at least some patients would likely be years away from hitting the market.



But the excitement of the team from Sick Kids, whose work is being published today in the journal Cell, is almost palpable.



"I've never seen anything like it," said Dr. Hans Michael Dosch, an immunologist at the hospital and a leader of the studies. "In my career, this is unique."



Their conclusions upset conventional wisdom that Type 1 diabetes, the most serious form of the illness that typically first appears in childhood, was solely caused by autoimmune responses -- the body's immune system turning on itself.



They also conclude that there are far more similarities than previously thought between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, and that nerves likely play a role in other chronic inflammatory conditions, such as asthma and Crohn's disease.



The "paradigm-changing" study opens "a novel, exciting door to address one of the diseases with large societal impact," said Dr. Christian Stohler, a leading U.S. pain specialist and dean of dentistry at the University of Maryland, who has reviewed the work.



"The treatment and diagnosis of neuropathic diseases is poised to take a dramatic leap forward because of the impressive research."



About two million Canadians suffer from diabetes, 10% of them with Type 1, contributing to 41,000 deaths a year.



Insulin replacement therapy is the only treatment of Type 1, and cannot prevent many of the side effects, from heart attacks to kidney failure.



In Type 1 diabetes, the pancreas does not produce enough insulin to shift glucose into the cells that need it. In Type 2 diabetes, the insulin that is produced is not used effectively -- something called insulin resistance -- also resulting in poor absorption of glucose.



The problems stem partly from inflammation -- and eventual death -- of insulin-producing islet cells in the pancreas.



Dr. Dosch had concluded in a 1999 paper that there were surprising similarities between diabetes and multiple sclerosis, a central nervous system disease. His interest was also piqued by the presence around the insulin-producing islets of an "enormous" number of nerves, pain neurons primarily used to signal the brain that tissue has been damaged.



Suspecting a link between the nerves and diabetes, he and Dr. Salter used an old experimental trick -- injecting capsaicin, the active ingredient in hot chili peppers, to kill the pancreatic sensory nerves in mice that had an equivalent of Type 1 diabetes.



"Then we had the biggest shock of our lives," Dr. Dosch said. Almost immediately, the islets began producing insulin normally "It was a shock? Really out of left field, because nothing in the literature was saying anything about this."



It turns out the nerves secrete neuropeptides that are instrumental in the proper functioning of the islets. Further study by the team, which also involved the University of Calgary and the Jackson Laboratory in Maine, found that the nerves in diabetic mice were releasing too little of the neuropeptides, resulting in a "vicious cycle" of stress on the islets.



So next, they injected the neuropeptide "substance P" in the pancreases of diabetic mice, a demanding task given the tiny size of the rodent organs. The results were dramatic.



The islet inflammation cleared up and the diabetes was gone. Some have remained in that state for as long as four months, with just one injection.



They also discovered that their treatments curbed the insulin resistance that is the hallmark of Type 2 diabetes, and that insulin resistance is a major factor in Type 1 diabetes, suggesting the two illnesses are quite similar.



(This is of primary importance to the Nations Veterans - insulin resistance that is the hallmark of Type 2 diabetes was curbed.}



While pain scientists have been receptive to the research, immunologists have voiced skepticism at the idea of the nervous system playing such a major role in the disease. Editors of Cell put the Toronto researchers through vigorous review to prove the validity of their conclusions, though an editorial in the publication gives a positive review of the work.



"It will no doubt cause a great deal of consternation," said Dr. Salter about his paper.



The researchers are now setting out to confirm that the connection between sensory nerves and diabetes holds true in humans. If it does, they will see if their treatments have the same effects on people as they did on mice.



Nothing is for sure, but "there is a great deal of promise," Dr. Salter said.

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I got a VA doctor to finally tell me the my Diabeties was triggered when I was administered my first (and only) anthrax vaccination. I was healthy January of 1999, went to medical aboard the USS Emory S. Land and had a Corpsman HMSN gave me the shot, ran and passed my PRT 20 minutes later. Started noticing things like sexual performance were way down, feeling tired all the time, started gaining weight due to feeling aches and pain and tiredness all the time, xferred to SIMA Norfolk, started noticing it was geting harder to do the same job I could do most effortlessly before, got bad pneumonia in Dec 1999 ( had never been that sick ever in my whole life!), kept struggling along until April 2000 when I went to Sewells Point Medical and just told the lady doctor everything that was wrong with me. They ran every test, including LUPAS, and the only thing that came back positive was diabeties (fasting sugar was high). The rest as they say is history.

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Subvet722
TElling and going on record are two different things.If he went on record and he wrote it in your medical file that would be perfect for ya.I have had doctors tell me that my vaccines is what it was what made me ill but every time I ask them to state that on record and for them to write it down in my va medical file that flat out refuse.It is esay for them to tell me to my face but they refuse to write it down in my medical file,Why? I have no idea.
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Mark,

Its their ass and their job if they do. Thats why.

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Hello, My Father was Major Thomas Rummel USMC, He died in 1985 of Lung Cancer. Everyone in his communication Electronics Batallion also died in one year from his death.
I have looking for answers ever since. Have you all been to www.whale.to/m/scott7.html
If you have not you must look at this. I was sickened about it. So you have any ulcers or leisions that won't go away. If so Could you enlighten me.
I work with Vets all the Time and Respect you and What you are doing. I am so upset as to how you have been treated.
If I am may be of any help to you. Please let me know.
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May I help???? I am married to an Orthopaedic Surgeon in Brooksville, Florida and anyone with the itching skin leisions, I can help you
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Diabetes?? Yes! My son, who just returned from Iraq in November has been daignosed with type 1 diabebets. No family history at all. What is up with all this illness. He was a 210 pound very healthy man, in the last few months has lost over 50 pounds, very sick, having a biopsy for Lymphoma.
Just a thought. His FOB was Falcon in Iraq. The ammo depot was blown to hell one night, which took out alot of the fob. Media were told the soldiers were evaquated to safety. We found out later the guys were all under their beds praying to god. Now I ask the question...Could this be a result of Depleted Uranium???
Thanks, Mum

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just-mum-- If the DoD or VA do know what the health effects are from Depleted Uranium they will keep a secrete for years. Not encourging.

"Women will always fear war more than men because they are mothers. A women will always have a baby, her own or her childeren's, in her arms. She will always be tormented by fear for her childeren, the fear that one day she might be a witness to their own deaths." ---NATALYA BARANSKAYA--

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Just wanted to correct you on the dx of Diabetes.Type 1 Diabetes you get from birth and type 2 Diabetes you get when you are an adult.The Va explains my Diabetes from being over wieght which could be true in my case But it still does not explain my other illnessess.I am sorry to hear about what has happen to your son and it will be a battle that can be won, the key is not to give up.Hang in there for your son and do not let him give up.
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quote:
Originally posted by just-mum:
. . . . My son, who just returned from Iraq in November has been daignosed with type 1 diabebets . . . . . in the last few months has lost over 50 pounds, very sick, having a biopsy for Lymphoma.

Further to my message on the other thread . . . . . . .

Lymphoma? If your son does not have lymphoma, disease of the lymphatics is a manifestation of infection by various filarial parasites. Indeed, infection with Wuchereria bancrofti or Brugia malayi is tagged, lymphatic filariasis. US soldiers fighting in the Pacific in WWII were invalided out of service with these infections. Filariasis also causes visceral (abdominal cavity) disease, as does lieshmaniasis, that may have damaged his pancreas.

All filarial infections are treatable to some extent, and some can be speedily resolved. But finding doctors in the US & UK who know anything about them is hopeless.

P.S.
Three of the eight filarial parasites that infect humans are Mansonella species, two African, and one South American. They all infect the mesentery (abdominal cavity). In Africa, the native population tolerate Mansonella infection well. Mansonella perstans infection is considered to be asymptomatic, but in European settlers it is reported to cause multisymptom disease, like Gulf War syndrome, including psychological disease. The incidence of Gulf War syndrome is much higher in white than black veterans.

. . . . . . . I wonder [Confused]

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Thank you Jellybabies, Alas, most of what you say is beyond me. I am astounded at the amount of service members that have been getting all sorts of illness's. Where on earth are the doctors coming up with all of this.
I go from wondering if the Anthrax vac had something to make them sick, the Depleted Uranium or some kind of parasite. I grew up in England, lived in Spain, travelled all over Europe, never did I develop anything more than a cold. Am I to spend the rest of my days trying to figure out if there was something he was exposed too or is it all just coincidence?
Thanks again. mum

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I received a form to fill out by the Epidemiology Services from the VA back in early 2004. {I think.}
On it was a phone number to call if I had any other questions. So I did.
I actually talked to Dr. Han k. Kang of the VA.
He stated that there was a high percentage of diabetes and heart failure among GW1 vets. This surprised me.
I went to the VA and registered with the Gulf War registry.
I was looked at by a VA Doctor and my blood pressure was thru the roof.
The VA Doctor insisted I had my own Doctor.
I currently have my own personal Doctor who is treating me. Hmmm...

A very good topic to discuss!

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